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ULI Leadership Roundtable in New York
October 6-7, 2005

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“Remain in the ULI as long as you are in the real estate business. Whatever you learn as a result, however you benefit from it, don’t keep it to yourself. Pass it on.”—J.C. Nichols’ advice to Roy P. Drachman in 1949

When Urban Land Institute founder Jesse Clyde Nichols advised fellow Institute member Roy Drachman to “pass it on” 56 years ago, he was encouraging Drachman to recount a story—perhaps of success, perhaps of failure—but a story that would illustrate for the listener a valuable lesson learned about the business of land use and building communities.

This long-standing tradition of using story telling to share industry knowledge is a main factor distinguishing ULI from other real estate organizations and trade associations. Indeed, “mistakes made and lessons learned” is a hallmark of ULI meetings and conferences; keynote speakers, panelists and product council members are all expected to offer what they know about what works and what doesn’t. Many times, this information exchange takes the form of story telling—a compelling way to make a point, convey a message, or make a lasting impression.

It is a form a communication that tends to trigger an emotional reaction, rather than a reasoned response, and behavioral science consultant Annette Simmons believes that this “getting to the gut” quality is the very reason that storytelling can be so effective for real estate industry leaders.

Simmons, author of The Story Factor: Inspiration, Influence, and Persuasion through the Art of Storytelling, was a featured speaker at ULI’s third Leadership Roundtable last October in New York City, demonstrating to the attendees the power of a story as a tool of influence. Although business executives believe that providing an ample supply of objective information—numbers, percentages, statistics, pie-charts—is considered critical to be persuasive, it is often the anecdote that resonates, she said. “A story is a powerful way to explain your view, to help others walk through your experience so they get it,” Ms. Simmons said.

The most memorable presentations, she explained, are those that combine objective information such as data and research findings with anecdotes that illustrate and reinforce the facts. While the story is the subjective portion of the presentation, the story is what people use to help them sort through and understand the objective information. “You can convince with data and charts, but your story can have the bigger influence in changing behavior,” Ms. Simmons said.

Displaying the Human Side

The 42 chief executives invited to attend the 2005 roundtable were challenged by Ms. Simmons to share a story, about themselves or others—to depict a quality or qualities they believe is essential for effective leadership – including being ethical, honest, inspirational, open-minded, fair, intelligent, charismatic, determined, strong-willed, visionary, articulate, confident, and self-deprecating.

Getting started was not easy—even for these ULI members accustomed to sharing experiences through stories. For some, sharing a story meant sharing a “most embarrassing” moment:

The architect who proudly opened his suitcase in front of his clients to show off his project model, only to discover he had grabbed the wrong bag at the airport and had only underwear to display.

Or, the executive from a small Southern real estate company, who, during a Wall Street pitch to draw investors, realized he had traveled to the New York City meeting wearing mismatched shoes.

In both situations, the stories had a happy ending – the architect landed the project, and the development executive obtained the investment funding. However, as Ms. Simmons pointed out, what may not have been immediately evident to either storyteller is that their stories worked in their favor because they showed that both men are capable of error, yet equally capable of recovering from it. It also displayed an ability to diffuse an awkward situation with a self-deprecating sense of humor. “The pretense was dropped,” she said, noting that sharing stories of mistakes shows the human side—which, in the real estate profession, is invaluable in cultivating relationships with employees, clients and customers. “You may never connect on business issues, but you are all human beings…If you tell a story about when you screwed up, you will build more credibility.”

Ms. Simmons used the story telling exercises to demonstrate the ability of storytelling to illustrate a characteristic, quality or trait in a far more effective manner than simply describing a person or organization as having a particular characteristic, quality or trait. For instance, one roundtable participant recounted how his former boss would frequently leave in the middle of the afternoon, offering no explanation to squelch speculation of shirking work. Only years later, the participant said, was it discovered that the man had been visiting company employees who were in the hospital. By telling this story, the participant clearly showed that the organization truly cares about all its employees, and likely works hard to foster good relations in all aspects of its business operations. “That says a lot more than listing things in an employee handbook,” noted one roundtable participant.

Another participant told of time spent as a coach for his six-year-old daughter’s soccer team. When asked by one eager player if they had won, he recalled that he responded by saying, “Did you have fun? If you had fun, you won.” By telling this story, the participant revealed several characteristics about himself, including: 1) he is able and willing to balance his professional and personal life; and 2) he values enjoying oneself over getting ahead at any cost. “After hearing that, you think ‘I could work for him.’ I’m sure he gets the best out of his employees,” pointed out one attendee.

In the absence of first-hand experience, the visual imagery resulting from a powerful story—whether it’s funny, sad, poignant, frightening or frustrating—allows the listener to “put himself in the situation,” and benefit from the experience without actually being there, Simmons noted. “Letting someone hear your story gives you more authenticity and more sincerity, because the listener is right there with you,” she said.

In today’s business world, effective communication skills—essential for high-quality leadership—are often stymied by electronics, which ironically, are designed to improve communication, Simmons noted. But, while a Blackberry may enable an executive to quickly send an approval of a document, and company email systems allow expansive simultaneous outreach, these tools are not conducive to effective storytelling, because they are impersonal, she said. “Storytelling is personal. It can dramatically alter the information you are trying to get across…It is the oldest form of influence in human history.”

According to Simmons, there are six different types of stories that should be told by anyone trying to be persuasive and convincing:

  • Who I Am: Show why you have the right to try to exert influence or earn respect.
  • Why I’m Here: To gain credibility, demonstrate what you are offering, not what you are getting.
  • My Vision: Make overcoming obstacles worthwhile by keeping people focused on the overall goal, not the individual problems blocking achievement.
  • My Values in Action: Illustrate your values through a story that describes actions taken to honor those values.
  • Teach: Share an experience as a lesson learned.
  • “I Know What You are Thinking” Story: Through your story, validate the opinion of others. This helps them relate to you, and makes them more open to your views, proposals, etc.

“You want to tell people that you are good, trustworthy, experienced, creative and compassionate, but people like to make that judgment for themselves,” Simmons said. “They trust their own conclusions more than reported conclusions of others, particularly if their reported conclusion is in their own best interest. Your story is the evidence you can provide people to help them reach their own conclusion.”

Success Stories

In another portion of the leadership roundtable program, Denny Alberts, president and chief operating officer of Crescent Real Estate Equities in Fort Worth, Texas, shared a story of how those companies managed to turn around from the brink of collapse to become a thriving success.

Founded in 1994, the real estate investment trust started out purchasing premier real estate at discount to replacement-cost prices. However, the company’s strategy changed dramatically in the late 1990s, when a senior management shift resulted in the company investing in casinos and skating rinks. A series of “bad decisions,” along with little intervention by the company’s board of directors and a lack of long-term vision, almost caused the company’s ruin, Alberts said. However, a management reorganization and strategic turnaround began in 2000, with the company focusing on investments in upscale office properties, resort development and “lifestyle” communities that cater to active baby boomers.

“We needed to act quickly and make changes at the top, not the bottom,” Alberts said. Throughout the restructuring process, the company found it critical to “communicate often” to retain valued employees, who had stuck with the company but were unsure that it would indeed move in a positive direction, he said.

In addition to altering its investment strategy, the company made other operational changes, including modernizing its business model to allow for more shared ownership, to reduce its debt and increase its liquidity. In addition, the company expanded the technology of client tracking used by its law firm, and developed software to predict retail sales based on income and demographics, which can be used to select tenants for shopping centers. “The investors love it,” Alberts noted.

Mark Doran, chief operating officer of Transwestern Commercial Services in Dallas, also shared a success story, describing how the company has carved out a successful path through unconventional choices. For instance, he opened his presentation with a quote from a senior Transwestern representative, who said, “We don’t worry too much about how we’re different.”

Founded in 1978, Transwestern started out as a principal development company, expanding in the 1980s to management and leasing in Texas, then “going national” in the 1990’s. Currently, the company is a full-service commercial real estate firm in 24 markets throughout the United States.

According to Doran, the company’s success is based on four “cornerstone” concepts:

  • Real estate is fundamentally a local market business;
  • The best and brightest enjoy the ability to be entrepreneurial;
  • Those closest to the putting transactions together provide the most valuable input into the strategy development and operating priorities;
  • Empowered, fully-integrated teams of self-motivated professionals deliver superior results.

Using these concepts, the company’s management is shaped as an inverted pyramid, with regional presidents placed at the top and corporate officers at the bottom. It is a switch a centralized approach Transwestern had used in the past, Doran noted. “That (the centralized approach) did not wear well, because it was not inspiring. There was no buy-in at the regional level.” Now, with each regional president functioning as a chief executive officer, each regional team provides the same basic services, yet each can take advantage of opportunities unique to each region, he said.

The corporate leadership, whom Doran described as “caddies,” plays a stewardship role, in which each individual works with the regional leaders to support initiatives such as recruiting, mergers and acquisitions; allocate resources, provide branding and public relations services; and foster client relationships.

It is a strategy, he said, that has worked well for the company, in both recruiting and retaining high-quality performers. In recruiting, Transwestern has learned several lessons, including: 1) recruitment is an evergreen process—recruiting situationally is not effective for drawing top people; 2) recruit the right people, not just people; 3) act quickly and be flexible, particularly in offering a compensation structure that meets specific employee needs; 4) acknowledge that good people are “on someone else’s list.”

“The key is to figure out what besides compensation you can provide to keep the best people,” Doran said. “The point is not to make it hard for people to leave, but to make it compelling for them to stay.”

Colonel David C. Fuquea, who serves in the U.S. Marine Corps as deputy commandant of midshipmen at the U.S. Naval Academy, shared his perspectives on some of the leadership tenets that can serve both competitive chief executive officers and battle-hardened Marines. For instance, he recounted a situation in which a commanding general assigned himself Christmas Eve duty, freeing up the junior officers to spend the evening with their families. In a similar example, Fuquea told of a battalion commander who refused to accept protective clothing for himself until all of his troops had been properly outfitted. These acts of selfless devotion, he noted, were certain to ensure troop loyalty and utmost respect.

Colonel Fuquea provided roundtable participants with a list of U.S. Marine Corps leadership traits:

  • Dependability—The certainty of proper performance of duty;
  • Bearing—Creating a favorable impression in carriage, appearance and personal conduct at all times;
  • Courage—The mental quality that recognizes fear of danger or criticism, but enables a man to proceed in the face of it with calmness and firmness;
  • Decisiveness—Ability to make decisions promptly and announce them in a clear, forceful manner;
  • Endurance—The mental and physical stamina measured by the ability to withstand pain, fatigue, stress and hardship;
  • Enthusiam—The display of sincere interest and exuberance in the performance of duty;
  • Initiative—Taking action in the absence of orders;
  • Integrity—Uprightness of character and soundness of moral principles; includes the qualities of truthfulness and honesty;
  • Judgment—Giving reward and punishment according to merits of the case in question. The ability to administer a system of rewards and punishments impartially and consistently.
  • Knowledge—Understanding of a science or art. The range of one’s information, including professional knowledge and an understanding of your Marines.
  • Tact—The ability to deal with others without creating offense.
  • Unselfishness—Avoidance of providing for one’s own comfort and personal advancement at the expense of others;
  • Loyalty—The quality of faithfulness to country, the Corps, the unit, and to one’s seniors, subordinates and peers.

Considering that hundreds of thousands of Marines worldwide willingly carry out their duty to protect the United States in exchange for low pay and time away from their families, “I have to believe that, based on the leadership principles I have offered, something we do (in our leadership training) is valuable for you,” Fuquea said.

ULI New York Executive Director John B. Parkinson, Jr., who attended the U.S. Naval Academy and served with Fuquea in the Marine Corps, narrowed the list of key leadership traits discussed at the roundtable to the two that proved invaluable in his own private-sector career—the ability to focus and remain humble.

“Staying focused on the task at hand brings about a sense of commitment that elevates the performance of the combined strengths of the team,” he said. Humility, Parkinson noted, is equally important. “Remembering who got you to this point and how you got there allows a leader to serve more effectively.”

Trisha Riggs, director of communications, ULI



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